Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 23:01:51 GMT
From: SDL	
To: AGM mailing list.
Subject: Re: Query related to the flamers in AGM

(snippety snip)
>
>I agree with all of you that ignoring these people is the
>ultimately best course of action, but I really hate to see my 'net home of
>AGM being disturbed like this, and as Tom has made it clear that he is 
>going to stick around for some time (while the other two I think are just
>crossposting and would likely stop at some point)... I want to do 
>something about it, and do not know what.

Tom Beam has made it clear he will continue to post here because he is 
still getting responses from people - any attention will do for his ego. The 
same applies to the others - posts from any of us talking about how awful 
the crossposting is and making any mention of their disruption will only 
feed their egos.

I don't think there's anything to be gained from replying or mailbombing or
moving to another group. It is better to email the regulars and try and warn
them. I have emailed Troy and got a reply saying he would desist but he
doesn't seem able to resist the temptation. My policy atm is to continue
 to assume new posters are bona fide unless the headers indicate they 
are crossposting or have posted from addresses used by the flamers so 
far.  Until somebody proves themselves 'unworthy' of the AGMer nickname 
I'll  continue to post welcome messages and email them if they seem to be 
getting caught up on the flame wars.

I have sent some of the 'flame' posts on to various ISPs and have received
two replies so far - one saying that it doesn't originate from their site
and they are also trying to track down the culprit, and one automated
response saying they may not reply in detail but they followup all cases
reported to them.

I had a rather foul email from yet another such person who doesn't seem 
to have made his/her appearance in AGM yet (Hiroo Charani). I forwarded 
that to the ISP and also sent 'K' a copy as I know he is busily trying to
track down some of the false leads etc just as he did with David Voisine. 
He and I had lengthy correspondence with the various members of the 
Board of Directors of the Torronto Freenet before we managed to get DV 
removed.  

*hugs* to all :-)

SDL/Spud....not too fussed about flamers - just ignore them :-)


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